The September 2008 issue of Money magazine brings us the story of Gina and John Rodrigues. At age 27, their net worth is $515,635. Some of their main assets include: $483K in investment properties (rentals); $146K in mutual funds and 401(k) savings; $137,000 in regular savings; $125,000 in a business (a retail gift shop); and $88K in individual stocks. Their current goal is "to become millionaires and retire by the time they turn 40, just 13 years from now." How did they do it (or how have they done it so far)? The article observes that the Rodrigues couple did not start off making all the right moves. They were not at first on the same page on spending habits; and early on, they followed the advice of a financial adviser to buy a pair of variable life insurance policies—and later found that the policies were a bad deal because of their fees and cancellation penalties (which they went ahead and swallowed in order to get rid of them). Over time, they have learned to make compromises regarding their different spending proclivities—including allowing certain planned splurges. Interestingly, the Rodrigueses' strategy is quite conventional in its concentration on spending less and saving more; but past that, they have been entrepreneurial and aggressive, by many people's standards. Gina quit her job in the mortgage underwriting business because of dissatisfaction with the long hours and lack of creativity involved in the work—and quit without having anything else lined up. She was out of work for about a year. Of course, their savings were down quite a bit during that year. Gina found her calling in the form of running a boutique that sells imported soaps and hand bags—and they took out a $75K loan to buy the store. And of course, owning three investment properties means additional debt load. The business loan and the mortgages comprise all of their debt though (no car loans or anything else), at a total of $516,365. And though they did well with the sale of their first home, their real-estate strategy is suffering from the current market. They project that they might barely break even if they were to sell the three properties; and the cash flow on them is negative by about $9K a year. From my read of the article on the Rodrigueses, that negative cash flow is their current situation going forward, with all three properties rented—and does not account for a 9-month period during which the Phoenix property was vacant because of a dispute with a former tenant. The Rodrigues seem to acknowledge difficulties in owning investment properties far away, although it sounds like they try to deal with this by hiring local property managers. Reading about this was quite interesting for me, because we have our one modest investment property far away as well. I would guess that their reasons for buying far away were similar to ours—at the time, houses in remote areas were much more affordable than houses nearby. Money magazine brought in two financial advisors to consult with the Rodrigueses, and I thought their advice was interesting to note. They advised that the Rodrigueses stock portfolio was too concentrated in company stock (37% in Microsoft) and recommended getting that down to 5%. They advised adding bonds to their 401(k) portfolio, moving from their current 99% in stocks to a 90% stocks/10% bonds split. And they advised selling one or two of the investment properties, to reduce the negative cash flow. The Rodrigueses stated disagreements with at least two of the recommendations. John stated that he wanted to keep the Microsoft stock, saying "it's dumb to sell low" and expressing confidence in the safety of the stock; and he strongly disagreed with selling any of the properties: I think those properties are going to come back eventually. Even if they don't, our retirement plan is not based on any return from those properties anyway. I think the Rodrigueses are doing great. At their ages, my net worth was negative—debt as far as the eye could see—and I definitely knew less than they do about investments; and I would have been too shy to plunge into real estate. I would have loved to have had as strong a start as the Rodrigueses have accomplished. As for their personal-finance strategy and approach, I agree that it is quite aggressive—and not recommended for many. But it seems to work for them. Their high income and liquid savings give them at least some significant ability to absorb the negative cash flow on the investment properties to try to wait out the market, as well as to absorb problems such as vacancies. I'd be curious to know more about the retail business, such as how much income it's spinning off, whether it's growing or has much more upside, and whether it has much risk (for instance, if it includes a long-term lease and generally what its level of fixed expenses are). But I also tend to get excited to hear about someone quitting their safe job to find one that they love. On their investments, I'd be interested to know how John's company stock purchase plan works, because if he gets any kind of benefit or discount, that does not seem to have been factored into the advice. And otherwise, my leanings tend somewhat more toward the Rodrigueses. My wife's and my 401(k) mix is closer to 99% stocks (including stock funds), and we are quite a bit longer in the tooth than the Rodrigueses. But our approach has some aggressive leanings too and also is not recommended for all. What do you think of the Rodrigueses' strategy, particularly in the places where they disagreed with the advice of the financial planners? [Editor's Note: At the time of this post, the profile of the Rodrigueses was not yet available online. For further reading, the Prime Time Money blog has several articles on magazine profiles of "Millionaires in the Making," including links to profiles and aggregate analysis of the group of "Millionaires in the Making." It's totally worth checking out! See: Millionaires (at Prime Time Money).] Related Posts: Success Stories: Retired At Age 43 With Nearly $2,000,000 Success Stories: Single Parent Saves Over $310,000 By Age 38
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Success Stories: Couple Hits $515K Net Worth by Age 27 — and Seeks to Retire by Age 40
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Nice story. I think they sort of missed the point with the advice about getting out of company stock. The point is not to sell now, just be moving yourself towards a more balanced position. At the same time, I do think their in good shape with Microsoft. But you never know.
As for the houses, if they are based in SA, then they should get out of them. The "turn around" won't be enough in that market to make up for 9k negative cash flow.
I agree that they have an overall great situation going on. They have their debt working for them, and they're personally invested in their businesses. The also seem to be smart with their spending which is really the key here. It's easy to ring up a bunch of debt with that kind of income, but to be savings and spending like they do, that's what sets them apart.
Thanks for the mention as well.
Here is what I think about the Rodriguez family. Except for being frugal, their financial plan is awful and they are arrogant. "We don't want to sell low." WTF? Have you ever heard of getting out of a bad investment? "We want to keep our rental properties (and their negative cash flow) because they aren't part of our retirement plan." What plan are they part of? The slowly erode my cash flow plan? The I don't care about return on equity plan? These folks could be in a lot better place if they understood what they were doing.
I think they are doing just fine and correctly. Wish I had the same opportunities. And that's a key factor here and in other similar stories.
There are some factors in life that come at you from out of nowhere that can really slam your prospects to the ground no matter how frugal or contemplative you are. You may still end up well off but will take longer and perhaps not as well as if those events didn't befall you.
ps - I Never trusted advise from Money rag, errr, I mean mag.
I guess negative cash flow of 9k a year isn't that bad, but 3 properties seem like a lot. They're from the Bay Area I guess. We do make a lot of money here, but a lot goes to taxes and living expenses. My hubby and I make around the same amount as them, but we don't own any real estate so we don't have any tax deductions from the interest.
I read the article in this month's Money magazine.
They could be doing a lot worse I guess. But still, they're living cheap renting because his parents are allowing them to rent a fully furnished place for an unheard of monthly rent in the bay area. Is that at all realistic?
One takeaway I had was to wonder about what impact John's choice to share his plans to leave Microsoft in 13 years might have on his career path with them. That, and his wisdom in choosing to use an Apple laptop in the article's accompanying photo.
I wanted to point out one flaw in John's thinking:
John ... drove to Oregon (12 hours each way) to buy Gina’s engagement ring, thereby avoiding $1,500 in California sales tax.
Sorry, even though he didn't have to pay sales tax when he bought the ring in Oregon, he most definitely owes use tax to his resident state of California.
See CNN Money: Fraudsters in the Making? in my blog.
Bill
Wow! that was quite a huge amount! and they got it at the age of 27? double wow! I'm 27, too...and my husband's 28 but our savings are way behind the savings of that couple. They are such an inspiration...hmmm I think we have to cut back our clothes and travel budgets right now.
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